Looking for some practical financial advice

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      I’m currently working to build towards my emergency fund to cover 6 months of expenses. I would require $15,000. I have $2,000 towards it and having $300 withdrawn monthly towards it.

      On the other hand, I’m having $475 pulled from my paycheck towards my 403B which I borrowed $24,000 from. It will take about 5 years to pay that back.

      What do you think I should prioritize? Please support with reasons that include practical advice and facts around tax implications. 

      Feel free to ask any questions for further clarification.

      TIA!

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      Stan

        For 403b loan do you pay back interest and does that interest get paid back to your account? It’s that way for a 401k loan.

        If you are paying the interest back to yourself, I would prioritize the emergency fund.

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        Dalton

          I would prioritize your emergency fund until an aggressive market draw down then switch to the 403b loan because then you’re paying back the loan with discounted stocks and getting more benefit from the stock recovery.

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          Josh

            A lot of the financial ‘people’ who give advice for this kind of stuff will generally advise an order of how to do things.

            Dave Ramsey would say, keep a $1000 emergency fund, and then bust your butt to pay off every debt THEN you do your 6 month emergency fund.

            Money Guy suggests, Put enough aside to hit all your deductibles, get your employer match for retirement, High Interest debt, THEN emergency funds.

            So really the question boils down to interest rates. You’re paying about 4-5k in interest on that about loan, A calculator suggests that’s about 7% which is on the cusp of high interest loans where you should pay off first.

            The thing is you’re capping your retirement growth at 7% for 5 years. Depending on how the market does if it goes up 30% then you’re stuck only getting 7% that you’re paying yourself back..

            For perspective the last 5 years have been:

            • 2018 -4.4%
            • 2019 31.5%
            • 2020 18.4%
            • 2021 28.7%
            • 2022 -18.1%

            If you had taken this loan out 5 years ago, that’d be 3 years where you had lost a huge window of growth. (I pulled it up that 24k would be worth 38.136k today, whereas 475*60=28.5k that’s a loss of 10k of potential dollars) Obviously past performance does not guarantee future success.

            Also, this traps you in your job until it’s paid off. If you get laid off or want to leave your job, you’re stuck until that loan is paid off.

            I’m not a financial advisor and seeing one is important for big decisions, but if I were in your shoes as a random guy on facebook. I’d probably do something smaller like 1 month of expenses, attack the 403b loan, then build up your emergency fund.

            Plus your Emergency fund is a CD is only going to get 4-5% while you’re losing 7%

            The point of things like Ramsey’s plan of small emergency fund until you pay off debt is that you should be scared of having this debt over you, it traps you in your job until you pay it off. Now I don’t think rice and beans and 3 jobs until it’s paid off is a life I’d want to live, it is never-the-less effective.

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